Student : In the vinyasa, practicing vinyasa should the student go deep into the asana or should he go gently through it? For example from chatwari, going to urdhva mukha svanasana, should it be slight or strong bending?
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Guruji : No nostrong, stiff bending. Same, Vinyasa means (should be same as asanas) same not loose. Does it mean vinyasa as perfect as one asana? Yes, that is why I am telling all the asanas perfectly you do, taken 3hours. You can understand? That is why you take short time. You do short time. You take practice. That is also benefit you get is possible.
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Shastra(scripture) is telling about vinyasa:
¡°Without vinyasa don¡¯t do asana!¡± Without vinyasa don¡¯t do asana. That is very bad practice. That bad practice is not giving good knowledge.
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Patanjali is telling:
"yogāṅgānuṣṭhānād aśuddhikśaye jñānadīptir āvivekakhyāteḥ (Yogasutra 2.28)"
(through the practice of the limbs of yoga, there is adiminishing of the impurities and cultivation of the light of discriminating wisdom)
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That is real. But aśuddhikśaye means: your inside poison completely is gone, going out. You loose your body you do (if the body is not engaged when practicing). One hour you do. Not sweat is coming. Only for posture he is doing what use?! You want real yoga, same method you follow. That is method.
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Student : Doing vinyasa is it correct to stop for example in urdhvamukhasvanasana for more than one breath?
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Guruji : Only one breath, inhale one breath, exhale. Inhale, exhale only one breath. Inhale 10seconds or 15seconds then exhalation also 10seconds or 15seconds. This is 10 times I am telling, you don¡¯t understand!
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Student : Yassin is asking if he should stay longer in kurmasana or in backbendings. You give some timing like 10breaths for kurmasana. You give 3times five breaths for urdhvadhanurasana. Yassin is asking if he should stay longer. He wants to stay longer some times.
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Guruji : I telling: all the asanas you take practice how long your streng this so there, you take. Long time he is doing, 100asanas you do - 1asana is perfect. Long time sitting all the asana she is doing time, you 1 take 10breath or 15breathing. You count it. Practice, that is all. You long time you sitting, kurmasana is long time, 3hours is possible. One asana is perfect, taken 3hours. Now practice how much your streng this there, you take. That is no problem. Your streng this 10breathing is doing possible, you do 10 breathing, 15breathing you possible, you do 15breathing. One hundred possible, 100 you do. 5 you do, 5 is possible, 5 you do. Take practice, that is all. I am telling only for practice. Fix completely perfect. Asana, one asana siddhi, you do hundred asanas, one asana is coming, one asana perfectly is coming. That is real.
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Sthirasukhamāsanam(Yogasutra 2.46)
Sthira means perfect. Sukha means happiness. That posture you sit and very happy you, don¡¯t anyone pain: That is Sthira Sukham. That is called asana. You can understand.
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¡¦one asana is perfect perfect perfect. There is one link from one asana to one asana. Link is there. Those asanas you take, all. One by one. One by one, all perfectit. After you do backbendings. That is backbendings asanas. Primary asanas, not much back - bendings is coming - you know! Intermediate asanas little, little starting: Ustrasana, laghuvajrasana, kapotasana.
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